Legalizing Marijuana

[b 0 n g s]

Your opinion?


i think it should because it would lower crime rate dramatically and it would also put all the dealers out of business.. it would be sold in a controlled style .. maybe in packs or in amonts ( 1/-8ths and what not) also the people who grow it would also be almost put out of business cuz it would be make by huge farms.

there could be an age limit and a tax on it... if the USA legalized it .. many other countries would also and then Iraq could then be considered an even more resourcefull country for its large amout of cannibus it grows

[LucifersKitchen]

And my life would be much much better.

[b 0 n g s]

LucifersKitchen']And my life would be much much better.


more legal =]

[[PDM]PartyMarty]

New Tax base pluss heavy restrictions

[Bitter]

No marijuana is horrible. I consider it to be the worst of drugs mainly because it's the drug that does harm but everyone is CONVINCED it doesn't. Taking anything into your lungs involving burning causes damage. I've heard tons of excuses from my roomates about how their bongs filter it or all this crap. It doesn't, weed will give you lung cancer. Couple of points, tell me what you think about them
1. It's already illegal for a reason. The only reason people want the have it legalized is because "it makes them feel good". Doesn't that seem like a sort of selfish cause?
2. Anything you can get addicted to CAN'T be good....
3. I see all of these stupid websites that say OMG HOW MANY DEATHS FROM WEED=0, it's bull**** i have a published magazine article that states how many people die from different drugs and weed was up there at like 250 in 2002 i believe.
4. Everything people think about weed, people were thiking about tabacoo decades ago. If you had the chance to go back and stop tabacco from every exploding like it has, would you? I sure would. And we have a chance right now to stop weed from every becoming the same thing. Don't listen to me, and 50 years into the future Nicoderm CQ will be selling marijuana patches...
5. I believe medical studies show it kills brain cells in short term memory, but that memory returns after you stop smoking...

In conclusion, most marijuana users i know, use marijuana to escape from the realities of their life, like to be lazy, and are basically selfish creature. I want what i want that makes me feel good and i want it right now and nobody else can tell me what to do. Would your parents and grandparents be proud of you for smoking marijuana? Is that what they spent all their time and money in your education for? So that you get high all day? i dunno i just really hate MJ....
Bitter

[cockroach]

I voted no!
there is no money in it when its legal thats bad :D

[LucifersKitchen]

2. Anything you can get addicted to CAN'T be good....


Horrible misconception here. I smoke weed. Lots. You don't get addicted to it physically. There's nothing in weed the gets you "physically" addicted. You get addicted to the love fixation. And truthfully, it's not bad for you at all. A little lung damage here and there never hurt anyone. Only a very very small percentage hurts your lungs at all. It's not like cigarettes that contain all of those random poisens tar, weed is a natural herb, it's healthy for you.

[LeNz]

yea and besides bitter ur sayin that a lot of peeps died from weed, a whole 250... more people die from cigs=legal, liver damage from alcohol=legal, and eatting fast food= legal.... millions die from cigarettes!!!!

[Bitter]

ya i know ****loads die from cigs. But reprecussions of lung damage (of MJ) haven't been killing people yet and won't for a while. Cigs have been in wide usage since the 30's and such, so most of the people that are dying are 50+. Cept for some hippies, there aren't too many people 50+ that have been smoking weed their whole life. 250 is more than enough evidence for me that marijuana can and will kill.. And luci, you implied that the love addiction to marijuana was not bad, and that physical addictions are worse. But people get love addictions to alchohol, and we all know that achololism is a serious issue.

"weed is a natural herb, it's healthy for you." = so is cocaine? = not a valid argument. Also, case in point about why marijuana is the worst of all drugs, because it has people convinced that it ISN"T, like right there. He's convinced that it's "healthy", god i hate that drug....

And yeah lenz, for the cigs that have killed millions, if you could, would you go back in time and make them illegal?
Bitter

[b 0 n g s]

No marijuana is horrible. I consider it to be the worst of drugs mainly because it's the drug that does harm but everyone is CONVINCED it doesn't. Taking anything into your lungs involving burning causes damage. I've heard tons of excuses from my roomates about how their bongs filter it or all this crap. It doesn't, weed will give you lung cancer. Couple of points, tell me what you think about them
1. It's already illegal for a reason. The only reason people want the have it legalized is because "it makes them feel good". Doesn't that seem like a sort of selfish cause?
2. Anything you can get addicted to CAN'T be good....
3. I see all of these stupid websites that say OMG HOW MANY DEATHS FROM WEED=0, it's bull**** i have a published magazine article that states how many people die from different drugs and weed was up there at like 250 in 2002 i believe.
4. Everything people think about weed, people were thiking about tabacoo decades ago. If you had the chance to go back and stop tabacco from every exploding like it has, would you? I sure would. And we have a chance right now to stop weed from every becoming the same thing. Don't listen to me, and 50 years into the future Nicoderm CQ will be selling marijuana patches...
5. I believe medical studies show it kills brain cells in short term memory, but that memory returns after you stop smoking...

In conclusion, most marijuana users i know, use marijuana to escape from the realities of their life, like to be lazy, and are basically selfish creature. I want what i want that makes me feel good and i want it right now and nobody else can tell me what to do. Would your parents and grandparents be proud of you for smoking marijuana? Is that what they spent all their time and money in your education for? So that you get high all day? i dunno i just really hate MJ....
Bitter

haha the bong does filter out the bad stuff the toxins and such... and its not a physically addictive drug... its more mental... my friend had headaches for quitting for 2weeks straight after about... 4months of everyday.. but nothing more and we think it was his allergies... also u can get filters for joints that filter out alot of the toxins. it all depends on how u do it. Most deaths from weed is that of people going into public Driving and killingthemselves/other people and compared to other drugs.. 250 people is a really good number( no death is good) its less then 1 a day.. its less harmfull then cig's and alcohol.

ya i know ****loads die from cigs. But reprecussions of lung damage (of MJ) haven't been killing people yet and won't for a while. Cigs have been in wide usage since the 30's and such, so most of the people that are dying are 50+. Cept for some hippies, there aren't too many people 50+ that have been smoking weed their whole life. 250 is more than enough evidence for me that marijuana can and will kill.. And luci, you implied that the love addiction to marijuana was not bad, and that physical addictions are worse. But people get love addictions to alchohol, and we all know that achololism is a serious issue.

"weed is a natural herb, it's healthy for you." = so is cocaine? = not a valid argument. Also, case in point about why marijuana is the worst of all drugs, because it has people convinced that it ISN"T, like right there. He's convinced that it's "healthy", god i hate that drug....

And yeah lenz, for the cigs that have killed millions, if you could, would you go back in time and make them illegal?
Bitter

weed about once every 2 weeks is good for peoples lungs..espically if u smoke ciggerettes, it relaxes the muscles and makes your body less tense. therefore the relaxation on ur lungs about in that space of time can actually help.. if i could go back in time i would make cig's illegal and make "(MJ)" legal. :D

[Deeds]

Pot is a clean smoke it is way better then cigs for ya im not saying either one is good but if you legalize Mary Jane i know that it wont be such a hot thing anymore because it is legal soo maybe kids wont think of it as that dangerous when it is and all that will result is kids going to harder drugs like speed and soo forth..........

[Bitter]

See, i just keep seeing more evidence of why i hate this drug. These people are convinced that it's not hurting them, and i'm sure cigs were the same thing. Filter's for weed, like the ones they have on cigarettes? Oh i guess cigarretes must be harmless then right.... Get this through your thick brain, if you have smoke going into your lungs, it doesn't matter what kind it is, IT"S HARMFUL. There's no such thing as a "clean smoke".

Next i'm just waiting for one of these guys to blatantly say, "cigs aren't bad for u!"
Bitter

[LucifersKitchen]

And luci, you implied that the love addiction to marijuana was not bad, and that physical addictions are worse. But people get love addictions to alchohol, and we all know that achololism is a serious issue.

"weed is a natural herb, it's healthy for you." = so is cocaine? = not a valid argument. Also, case in point about why marijuana is the worst of all drugs, because it has people convinced that it ISN"T, like right there. He's convinced that it's "healthy", god i hate that drug....


Alcohol and MJ are two different things. You can't compare MJ to alcohol when alcohol isn't a natural substance, things are put into alcohol to make it addictive, to make you get drunk, etc. And cigarettes, don't even think about comparing them to MJ. So many poisens and crap are adding into them, they're no-where near the same thing as MJ. MJ is MJ, and only MJ. No added substances, nothing, it's completely natural.

[evillama]

well before cigarettes became a corporate product they were natural too. what do you think will happen with pot? im not for or against it, i dont really care. the way i see it is if cigs and booze are legal why not legalize it. but i dont smoke it so if it is illegal it doesnt really matter. i also see a few negative implications towards legalization, but i havent really looked very deep, or at all, into the subject.

[b 0 n g s]

o well when i smoked it... i did it for the high and i dont careabout my lungs.. cuz i can still be as active as ever and i dont cough or slow down at all.

[Bitter]

HAHAH i could really jump on lucifer for this one, but i'm not going too. I'm going to assume that he doesn't know this things because he's too young to experiment, but lucifer, alcohol is made from plants as well. Barley, hops, grapes, u name it, alcohol is 100% natural. The only thing they add to alcohol is flavors like for smirnoff and such.

And tabacoo is a natural plant, just like cannabis. They are EXACTLY the same, the only difference is that they add Nicotine to cigs, and MJ comes without the nicotine. It's plain and simple, you burn it, you breathe it, it will harm your lungs. Doesn't matter what it is. I can get lung cancer from burning paper too much....
Bitter

[Kplu]

Heres my 2 cents:
There are two primary problems with weed. 1. people don't realize but it REALLY messes with perscription medications. when mixed with certain perscription psyche drugs it can become physically addictive, the mental addiction is increased and it becomes a big hazard to your health. And 2. its a gateway drug. I don't want to hear about it if you smoke pot every day and never tried coke, it is a gateway drug weather or not you think so. Used in moderation pot is fine, used responsibly like alcohol, its fine and can be safe. However, I still don't think it should be legal, I cannot stand the smell. There are allways groups of people outside doors to buildings smoking cigs, last thing I want is to have to smell disgusting marijuania every time I go to classes.

Note: I do not smoke pot, Have never smoked pot and do not plan to ever try. What you do is your business, not mine. Don't make it my business. Don't come on the server and start proclaiming about how high you are. If theres one thing I cant stand its when people need to feel cool by telling everyone on the server "Hey look at me! I do drugs, im cool! Im so high right now, Im so cool! Everyone knows drugs make you cool!" If you start talking about your drugs, ill consider it bad language and administer the proper disciplinary action.

That is all.

[b 0 n g s]

Kplu']Heres my 2 cents:
There are two primary problems with weed. 1. people don't realize but it REALLY messes with perscription medications. when mixed with certain perscription psyche drugs it can become physically addictive, the mental addiction is increased and it becomes a big hazard to your health. And 2. its a gateway drug. I don't want to hear about it if you smoke pot every day and never tried coke, it is a gateway drug weather or not you think so. Used in moderation pot is fine, used responsibly like alcohol, its fine and can be safe. However, I still don't think it should be legal, I cannot stand the smell. There are allways groups of people outside doors to buildings smoking cigs, last thing I want is to have to smell disgusting marijuania every time I go to classes.

Note: I do not smoke pot, Have never smoked pot and do not plan to ever try. What you do is your business, not mine. Don't make it my business. Don't come on the server and start proclaiming about how high you are. If theres one thing I cant stand its when people need to feel cool by telling everyone on the server "Hey look at me! I do drugs, im cool! Im so high right now, Im so cool! Everyone knows drugs make you cool!" If you start talking about your drugs, ill consider it bad language and administer the proper disciplinary action.

That is all.

your 100% right.. in both ways

it is a gateway drug i took bendryll cuz i wanted a more intense drug.. it was bad and that rigghht there closed " the gate" and now im clean for 2 weeks

[Boz0]

this is almost like talking about religion
when i first saw this i was like o every1 is going to say yes but i guess i wrong
good points on both sides though

[LucifersKitchen]

HAHAH i could really jump on lucifer for this one, but i'm not going too. I'm going to assume that he doesn't know this things because he's too young to experiment, but lucifer, alcohol is made from plants as well. Barley, hops, grapes, u name it, alcohol is 100% natural. The only thing they add to alcohol is flavors like for smirnoff and such.

And tabacoo is a natural plant, just like cannabis. They are EXACTLY the same, the only difference is that they add Nicotine to cigs, and MJ comes without the nicotine. It's plain and simple, you burn it, you breathe it, it will harm your lungs. Doesn't matter what it is. I can get lung cancer from burning paper too much....
Bitter


The tobacco in itself is natural, yes, but cigarettes are NOT. Liked i've stated twice before, they add poisens and tars and crap like that, which makes it 209347234789 times more unhealthy than MJ, or maybe even alcohol.

[Meg]

Yes, but most people are posting "Yes" coz they want to smoke all the weed they want anytime they want. DING. They wouldn't even both the read the thread.

[b 0 n g s]

no your wrong. just cuz they say yes doesnt mean they smoke it.

[Meg]

Majourity Rules.

[b 0 n g s]

Majourity Rules.


ok is that a reply to what i said ?

[[PDM] Ammofodder]

Marijuana can kill you.
Cigarettes can kill you.
Drinking can kill you.

If you want to do it and you know this much- you should go ahead and do it. If it kills you, I'd take it as meaning you weren't meant to live. You were consuming more oxygen and resources than you were worth.
They all can kill you.

They can also impair your judgement, which can lead to stupidity, which, as far as I know- IS THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR OF DEATH TODAY- and as long as you don't talk ignorantly and say things like:

o well when i smoked it... i did it for the high and i dont careabout my lungs.. cuz i can still be as active as ever and i dont cough or slow down at all.

IF YOU HONESTLY SMOKED IT OFTEN, it would have damaged your lungs. That is what smoke does to lungs. EVERYONE'S LUNGS. Glad you think you're invincible though.

LucifersKitchen']Horrible misconception here. I smoke weed. Lots. You don't get addicted to it physically. There's nothing in weed the gets you "physically" addicted. You get addicted to the love fixation. And truthfully, it's not bad for you at all. A little lung damage here and there never hurt anyone. Only a very very small percentage hurts your lungs at all. It's not like cigarettes that contain all of those random poisens tar, weed is a natural herb, it's healthy for you.

Do you think addiction is only addiction when it is physical? Actually- it isn't. YOU FEEL THE DRUG in your BRAIN, and later, when you've come down off of your high, and want it again- that's addiction. It seems physical if it tampers with the amount of chemicals released in your brain or exposed to your brain and then you come back for more. Same with cigarettes. I don't care if you think marijuana is "more" addictive or not, you're statement above me is almost completely false.

MJ isn't bad for you at all? How can you honestly say something like that? Neither is McDonalds bad for you than. If people weren't such lazy ***** and got off the couch, the computer, whatever, they wouldn't get fat and cry about it. And then die sometimes too. Sure, and Michael Jackson isn't bad for your under-age children either. If sleeping in a bed with an adult and practicing different forms of probes aren't bad for kids, then hell- he's a good man.

haha the bong does filter out the bad stuff the toxins and such... and its not a physically addictive drug... its more mental... my friend had headaches for quitting for 2weeks straight after about... 4months of everyday.. but nothing more and we think it was his allergies... also u can get filters for joints that filter out alot of the toxins. it all depends on how u do it. Most deaths from weed is that of people going into public Driving and killingthemselves/other people and compared to other drugs.. 250 people is a really good number( no death is good) its less then 1 a day.. its less harmfull then cig's and alcohol.

weed about once every 2 weeks is good for peoples lungs..espically if u smoke ciggerettes, it relaxes the muscles and makes your body less tense. therefore the relaxation on ur lungs about in that space of time can actually help.. if i could go back in time i would make cig's illegal and make "(MJ)" legal. :D

I don't know how to comment on this. I'm going to pry my eyes out with a spoon, and then shoot myself in the face. "It's good for you ESPECIALLY if you smoke cigarettes", "it's not physically addictive..." *shoots self in face*

...it is a gateway drug i took bendryll cuz i wanted a more intense drug.. it was bad and that rigghht there closed " the gate" and now im clean for 2 weeks

Not 100% here, but I do think that you walked through the gate the wrong way if you went from Marijuana to BENADRYL. I hope "clean" means you started thinking periodically.

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IT IS BAD FOR YOU. AS LONG AS YOU CAN ADMIT THIS, I DON'T SEE WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO SMOKE IT. Whether it directly kills you or leads you to do bad things- such as mindless posts, driving while "high", or trying to get a friend to wedge a pick axe into your temple- it can still kill you.

[Meg]

Okay, Enough Said. Ammo's right.

[b 0 n g s]

Okay, Enough Said. Ammo's right.


lol i think he is being very ignorent...

of corse it impairs your judgement thats a gimme.. but if you know its going to happen you take precautions.. like .. giving a sober person your keys to kide from you... therefore u cannot drive... also i would not go out in public... therefore not being in contact with some1 who can potentially catch me.

also a bong does filter stuff out.. hence why you use it... also why you dont drink the bong water (please go scratch your eyes out)

cig's are horrible and are messed w/ by adding crap to them to make them addictive.. and yes you can mentally get addicted to marijuana.

but if you get your marijuana directly from someone who grows it and u can sit thee ans watch him pick it therefore its not laced with other stuff.

im not invincible.. i just know what happened to me, and then i did smoke it ofren and i then and now can/ do run and i am actiove as ever... and no slowing down or coughing... ( i credit this to the bong)


i have no idea how u compre this to MJ whatson ur mind? i think u need to go to the gay thread.

its good cuz it can relax your lungs. espically if you are constentally putting strain on them...

o well i have a new drug called "wheat Grass" its a drink at a coffee shop and it has the vitamens and w/e of 2lbs of veggies and it gives you energy.. and that is good 4 u... so what now ammo? gunna say thats bad 4 u also ?

[Bitter]

No drugs aren't bad for you. I'll take some caffiene, then move it up to vicadin, then i'll go do six lines of cocaine. Chill?
Bitter

[b 0 n g s]

No drugs aren't bad for you. I'll take some caffiene, then move it up to vicadin, then i'll go do six lines of cocaine. Chill?
Bitter


cocaine is horrible.. i would never do something that bad/ addicting.

take caffiene ? i drink alot of that stuff :D

vicaden isnt a stimulent (SP) its a paint killier mainly made of asprin.. depending on how much Mg's u get ... the blue 1100s are about 30% asprin.

[[PDM] Ammofodder]

I don't think it is possible for me to get through to you, but I will try any way.

ALL Drugs are bad for you and can lead to you dying inadvertedly or otherwise. If you don't accept that, then you shouldn't ever come in contact with them, you are MOST likely to come to harm. If you can accept that, then there is no reason for you to try and justify them to me because you know and accept the positive and negative consequences of drugs. Also, I am well aware of what a bong is for, and what it does, but it doesn't make marijuana safe.

YOU SAID you cannot get addicted to marijuana physically. That's wrong since your brain is physical, and the chemicals released, are also physical. I corrected you. I'm right about it, and since you weren't, I'd appreciate if you'd accept that you were corrected and not try to change sides on me.

Where did you come up with it was good for your lungs every two weeks? I'll bet you have no proof of this whatsoever and just made it up yourself. People spend many years in COLLEGE to be able to make correct statements about things like that. You haven't finished high school yet and you won't admit that drugs are bad, therefore I don't think you are well-educated in that whole area. You may be a user, but just because you use it, that won't make you very informed apparently.

I haven't ever heard of wheat grass. I don't open my mouth when I don't know what I'm talking about so I don't really have anything to add about it.

Lastly, all I want to know Dynasty is if you think Marijuana is bad for you.
If you say yes- my argument with you is over, you may possibly understand that negative effects can occur from ALL DRUG USE and therefore there is nothing else for us to discuss.
If you say no- I won't reply to anything else you have to say. It means you don't get it and if people like you want to legalize marijuana, I'd vote against it, because I don't want to allow people of the "it's not bad for you" mindset to mess themselves up and potentially others so easily.
Please let me know what you think.

P.S. I will go back to the gay thread if there's anything else to post about. Unless you have just stepped in there to needless "spam" at someone too.

[b 0 n g s]

sure i think its bad for you if u make incorrect decisions while your on it.. but i still dont think its horrible for your body. sure it could be a tad bad... but not bad enuf to make it illegal.

also weat grass is a drink LEAGAL DRINK sold at a coffee shop.

in my definition of physical addiction is when u get sick or your body goes thru certain things when u dont get it... not like ... a mental addict who is like i need that stuff to feel good, i think i need it.

[Demon Fox]

From waht I have heard legaziling Marijuana would be bad for the drug companies. Marijuana can be used as a pain killer and would be a lot cheaper than the drugs that are sold, since you can grow it yourself.

[evillama]

Would it really be cheaper? I doubt it. The regulations that it would be under undoubtedly, at least in the beginning would make it EXTREMELY difficult to grow on one's own. Like owning a gun. Guns may be everywhere, but just because they are doesn't mean anyone can have one... Legislation.

[cyberjoint]

Taking anything into your lungs involving burning causes damage.
I've heard tons of excuses from my roomates about how their bongs filter it or all this crap. It doesn't, weed will give you lung cancer.Bitter

did you ever biked behind a tuck? lets ban the automobile industry(engine is a burning proces too)and about the cancer,my wife is a md and there is not enough scientific research done to proof it causes cancer.
MJ is a medicin here in holland for ms patients, they make pie and drinks from it


1. It's already illegal for a reason. The only reason people want the have it legalized is because "it makes them feel good". Doesn't that seem like a sort of selfish cause?Bitter
the reason for make it illegal in the past was an economical reason, its a multi useable plant (rope, paper, clothing made from it is stronger than jeans)
ancient chinese and egyptians people use it for the multiple use of it, or are they primitive ppl?

2. Anything you can get addicted to CAN'T be good....Bitter
omg i'm addicted to coffee =[

3. I see all of these stupid websites that say OMG HOW MANY DEATHS FROM WEED=0, it's bull**** i have a published magazine article that states how many people die from different drugs and weed was up there at like 250 in 2002 i believe.Bitter
we're talking about MJ, i can give you medical articals about caffeine and ppl with hart faillure

4. Everything people think about weed, people were thiking about tabacoo decades ago. If you had the chance to go back and stop tabacco from every exploding like it has, would you? I sure would. And we have a chance right now to stop weed from every becoming the same thing. Don't listen to me, and 50 years into the future Nicoderm CQ will be selling marijuana patches...Bitter
if you wanna make yourself usefull try to stop the heavy indusries with there polution of the whole world, if you are an american you have heared about the not signing of the Kyoto accord. (not signed by that country)

5. I believe medical studies show it kills brain cells in short term memory, but that memory returns after you stop smoking...Bitter
try to read more of them....

In conclusion, most marijuana users i know, use marijuana to escape from the realities of their life, like to be lazy, and are basically selfish creature. I want what i want that makes me feel good and i want it right now and nobody else can tell me what to do. Would your parents and grandparents be proud of you for smoking marijuana? Is that what they spent all their time and money in your education for? So that you get high all day? i dunno i just really hate MJ....
Bitter
my conclusion:YOU HAVE THE WRONG FRIENDS.
my parents have raised me to be critical and don't take government talk for "TRUE"unless you reseached it a little
you can escape from real life with a lot of thing (e.g. your pc, alcohol and even sex) my wife and me are well educated and legalising MJ is not the same as smoking all day.
your parents are probably mr & mrs Narrowminded
your hate is coming from something else, talk about it with a md. personally i think your maltreath by ppl who smoke it.


cyberjoint

[b 0 n g s]

cyber i love you and im very happy that someone finally shut down bitter with scientific evidence.. thanks alot .. and i agree with you 150%%

[cyberjoint]

youre welcome

[Boz0]

yay cyber gj
nice tutorial on pot :P

[MasterofPuppets]

bitter have you ever smoked anything? and have you tried other drugs then MJ? it is NOTHING compared the **** you go thru when you do heroin, or cocaine, or club drugs. those are the ones that are right to be illegal. everything the gov't says about weed is total bs. did you know sex and masturbation is addictive? is that illegal? MJ isnt even addictive. i know from not having smoke for over a year and a half. it was easier to quit pot, then (not from my experience, other ppls) cigs and some of the other drugs. marijuana itself wont kill a person. you just say its bad because thats the way you were raised. if your parents were pot heads, and all (not a few) your friends were pot heads, then you would have a totally different view. besides, if they need to make any drugs illegal, it should be alcohol. that **** is dangerous.


oh btw. if anyone wants some 150+ proof moonshine, IM me... :D

You would be surprised at how many people smoke pot. business men, nurses, doctors, lawyers, CEOs of companys (im lookin at you bill gates, your the only crack head who can come up with the balls to say "RELEASE THE SP2!")

lol, i just read cybers post, and that totally supports this. and 250 ppl in 2002?! OMFG! NOT 250 PPL! how many people die from alchol poisoning, and from asthama attacks from the air pollution? or how about people who die from aids? why dont we spend money fighting the war on AIDs?

and look at that commercial w/the guy driving high. he hasnt died from weed. that little girl did for getting in his way. AND THAT WAS A RACIST COMMERCIAL! THERE WERE NO WHITE PPL IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, SAY THAT ONLY BLACKS SMOKE WEED!

oh yeah, bitter, shut up and go get high, then tell me you dont like weed.

[Boz0]

wow... your emo!

[MasterofPuppets]

IM NOT EMO!!!!!!!!! RAWR!!!!!!!!!!

[Boz0]

[17:52] bozowned: your emo
[17:52] sonofsam666: I KNOW
[17:54] sonofsam666: i know

[b 0 n g s]

ya i agree with mop..... my parents smoke and drink )cigs and alcohol( " werd like those!


ok no they both are having alot of trouble quitting either... and i have quit pot.. i have had no withdrawls and no huge cravings... and my parents know that i smoked and didnt stop cuz they asked... i stoppped for me.


also ya club drugs need to be illegal.. look what they do... and yes masturbation is addictive :D .... also moonshine is quite illegal as far as i know so um mop send it to my house on the Down LoW!

4T0M1X

[MasterofPuppets]

bozo, i hate you. im never talking to you again, and im aborting OUR baby, yeah, thats right, i WAS pregnant with your kid, but as soon as i find a back alley abortionist, i wont be. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Boz0]

sounds liek something an emo kid would do

[MasterofPuppets]

shut up you, or ill shove this dead fetus down your throat.

[Boz0]

wow sounds like these lyrics i heard in an emo song...
hmm what was that again...??

[b 0 n g s]

wow sounds like these lyrics i heard in an emo song...
hmm what was that again...??


wtf is an emo?

[evillama]

emo is awful, hope to god you never cross its path. for more information, check out the video on the left:
http://somethingdirectory.com/

[Boz0]

LOL! that is an oldie but a godie ;D i love that video
but anwyay emo music is cool
taking back sunday, thursday, from autnm to ashes, a thorn for every heart, ext

[b 0 n g s]

i saw the beginnig ... looks like Apoc is in the video w/ the football players

[MasterofPuppets]

rofl. and that demonstartes my point that IM NOT ****ING EMO YOU CLOWN BASTARD!

[R!v3tH34d]

emo is so good. SO good.

[MasterofPuppets]

Why The Hell Do I Need To Dl Quicktime and Itunes!!!!!!! Who In Their Right Mind Would Dl Either Of Them! Damn Apple And Damn Macintosh

[Boz0]

only emo kids dont like mac

[MasterofPuppets]

bozo, enuff with the emo crap, or im divorcing you too. and im NOT EMO! stop CALLING ME EMO! lets just keep talking about weed.

so, how bout that mariwhana

[b 0 n g s]

weed is not politically incorrect, its Marijuana or Opium, or THC, or ChroniC! rofl

[Boz0]

only emo kids do pot

[LucifersKitchen]

only emo kids do pot


Go cut your wrists and listen to Linkin Park some more. And maybe go hate your parents some more. Angsty emo biatch.

[cockroach]

LucifersKitchen']Go cut your wrists and listen to Linkin Park some more. And maybe go hate your parents some more. Angsty emo biatch.
:) rofl nice

[Boz0]

LucifersKitchen']Go cut your wrists and listen to Linkin Park some more. And maybe go hate your parents some more. Angsty emo biatch.
linkinpark is my favortie band
so what are you trying to get at... im emo?

[[PDM] Ammofodder]

I don't think Linkin Park is Emo, I thought they were more of the Angsty, I-hate-my-parents-because-they-give-me-everything-I-want-and-no-one-understands-me... But, I do think that outside of the angstiness bit, I think they're kinda talented.

[Boz0]

they arnt emo at all
and they are my fav band not because of all their bad* songs becoming a hit

[LucifersKitchen]

they arnt emo at all
and they are my fav band not because of all their bad* songs becoming a hit


I didn't say Linkin Park was. I just said that you, Boz0, was emo. And LP has no talent whatsoever... they need two singers because one of them couldn't scream LOL.

But let's not get off topic.

Weed>Life

[b 0 n g s]

ROFL THEY ALSO NEED TO MAKE THERE CD 2 TIMES TO MAKE SOME EXTRA $$$

ooo lets make some anime vids to our old songs.. add a few techo sounding beeps and whatnot and hey look a new CD rofl

[R!v3tH34d]

weed is politically incorrect, its... or Opium... rofl

what?

[LucifersKitchen]

R!v3tH34d']what?


I truthfully think that he's mistaken. Or just an idiot. I'm gonna go with idiot.



JKJKJKJKJK <3 RAY.

[R!v3tH34d]

I'll go with mistaken.

[Boz0]

im not emo, i just kid around w/ MoP about it
and you are realy stupid
most bands that scream have two singers cuz one sings and one screams
chester bennington (lead singer in LP) is one of the best singer out right now
and they made two cds because alot of other groups wanted to be included and so instead of making differnt songs for every1 elses cd they just put it all on one.
even if they are out for the money who cares, atomix you havr no room to talk dynasty(which i know is one of your favortie pb teams) signed to smart parts all for the money and fame and there is nothing wrong w/ that unless you want to live on the street and again thats fine do what you want
and back on the topic of weed i think you should do what you want but dont parade it on the forums or servers or anything like that keep your personal life to yourself

[R!v3tH34d]

dude, bozo, emo is supafly. there is no way anyone can convince me differently.
or maybe im just emo and have a high opinion of myself.

anyways. pot addiction takes a ****in' load of money to support. i support cheaper marijuana.

[Boz0]

well i dont have a problem w/ emo ppl i like emo music and i dress like emos i guess (band t-shirts, shoes, ect/ not realy into the girls pants) but i dont consider myself an emo* but if some1 calls me one idc

[Boz0]

*ignore this post*

[cockroach]

LucifersKitchen']The tobacco in itself is natural, yes, but cigarettes are NOT. Liked i've stated twice before, they add poisens and tars and crap like that, which makes it 209347234789 times more unhealthy than MJ, or maybe even alcohol.
some sigarettes 500 chemicals are added,even some salt and pepper :S

[b 0 n g s]

lol i fixed it !!!! SORRY! <3

rofl salt and pepper i put that on Food ( DUH IM AN IDIOT!)

[R!v3tH34d]

cigarettes are cheaper.

[LucifersKitchen]

Haha, the lead singer of LP is not one of the best singers... let's just take this to a new topic, getting too involved in this one.


Back onto weed - Umm... yeah... weed>life.

[R!v3tH34d]

LucifersKitchen']weed>life.
you need to rethink your life.

[ProtO VivantA]

R!v3tH34d']you need to rethink your life.

agreed. lame.

[LucifersKitchen]

Psh. If I was actually being serious, I wouldn't be the one who smokes every morning before school, and get's all nervous and angry when he doesn't have any... *cough cough MATT cough cough*.


Let's not start this into a flame war please. Just had to stick it to ya.

[[PDM] quick]

Why The Hell Do I Need To Dl Quicktime and Itunes!!!!!!! Who In Their Right Mind Would Dl Either Of Them! Damn Apple And Damn Macintosh


umm its called click the link that says download quicktime only.

and wtf why do i agree with tony :\

[MasterofPuppets]

ya know what else is in cigarettes? PVC, CYNAIDE, ARSYNIC, RAT POISON (cyanide and arsinic), ummm, stuff along those lines. and squares(i say squares cause i cant spell cigerette right ever, and if i do i cant tell)and the filters dont get that stuff...

whats in weed? THC, THC, THC, THC, THC, AND oh yeah, THC! and like, chlorophil.. MORE LIKE BORE-O-PHILL!!BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


oh yeah, 1 more thing, STOP PICKIN ON POOR LITTLE EMO BOZO, HE DOESNT KNOW ANY BETTER! <3 boz0

R!v3tH34d']you need to rethink your life.

ok how bout this. PDM!!!, sex, weed, sleep, food, water, school

[R!v3tH34d]

LucifersKitchen']Psh. If I was actually being serious, I wouldn't be the one who smokes every morning before school, and get's all nervous and angry when he doesn't have any... *cough cough MATT cough cough*.


Let's not start this into a flame war please. Just had to stick it to ya.

to let you know, im on the road to recovery. thanks.

[[PDM] Ammofodder]

ya know what else is in cigarettes? PVC, CYNAIDE, ARSYNIC, RAT POISON (cyanide and arsinic), ummm, stuff along those lines. and squares(i say squares cause i cant spell cigerette right ever, and if i do i cant tell)and the filters dont get that stuff...

whats in weed? THC, THC, THC, THC, THC, AND oh yeah, THC! and like, chlorophil.. MORE LIKE BORE-O-PHILL!!BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


In recent years, it has come to my attention, that I am not a scientist, nor do I ever care to know anything about science. But even though I know this, I've fallen under the impression that although cigarettes are bad for you and can kill you, that the great folks at Phillip Morris USA, don't put ammonia, cyanide, and arsenic in their products, in order to kill you. Some of these, I don't have a flying f*ck of a clue which ones, do help preserve the cigarette. AND- in small quantities, aren't harmful. Some preservatives aren't good for you, but they don't put lethal amounts in your Strawberry Jelly, Twinkies, and Ho-Ho's. Granted, at high levels, they will kill you, but I'm pretty sure you listen to the Anti-Smoking TV ads WAY TOO MUCH. As it turns out, TV ads do distort the truth, also known as lying in some villages.

Yes, "rat poison" is in some cigarettes, and- oh sh*t, it's also in the- you'll never believe this- TOOTHPASTE you shove in your mouth twice or three times a day. Sodium Benzoate, a common ingredient in SOME Rat Poisons, can also be found in your toothpaste. Convenient that on TV they announce cigarettes are made with Rat Poison and not Toothpaste, huh?

No, I'm not trying to say smoking isn't bad for you, we all know it is, just that some "killer" ingredients AREN'T actually killer in the tiny quantities that you find in cigarettes. Ammonia is part of a very magical mixture called Mustard Gas hailing from WWI days. It killed people. Ammonia on its own can kill you or harm your brain pretty bad. It destroys brain cells. If the amount in cigarettes is so bad, why doesn't everyone who smoke, suffer from MASSIVE brain damage or just suddenly drop dead instead of getting cancer of the throat lungs, etc? Eh, maybe because the amount in cigarettes is miniscule and it isn't the ammonia itself that kills you.
There is more to it than what you see on TV. Instead of advocating that weed is good because cigarettes are bad, think instead- they're both potentially harmful AND when cigarettes first started out, they weren't bad for you hardly at all. They were just the tobacco plant and my grandpa used to roll his own(cigarettes, not weed). As soon as smoking became a REALLY profitable business, the cigarettes became tainted and more harmful for you. Don't you think that Marijuana could end up the same way? As soon as it becomes "big", there will undoubtedly be companies that sprout up to capitalize on this, and in order to ship their product nationwide and have it all still "taste fresh", things will be added. Flavors, preservatives, "taste enhancers", etc. Weed isn't going to be a little backyard business. Alcohol can be made at home easily, and that is VERY illegal. Tobacco Plants can be grown at home, but for some reason no one does. Oh, that's right- restrictions. What makes you think that Marijuana will be allowed to be grown at home? No other mood enhancer or similar addictive substance can be, why would weed? IT WON'T BE, because regulating it would become impossible.

Marijuana may be "natural" now, like cigarettes were too when they started out, but as soon as a market appears for it, the Marijuana will change.

The moral of my story is- You watch too much TV and you shouldn't believe everything you watch. Yes, yes you do believe everything.

[cockroach]

R!v3tH34d']cigarettes are cheaper.
not in my world,I spend 3 time's more on tabacco.

[R!v3tH34d]

i'd love to live in your world. much cheaper here...

[b 0 n g s]

pdm is my life.... also .... ammo you need to practice what you preach... note on how earlier u posted all that scientific stuff aboot MJ and yet now u tell us ur not a scientist..... dont belive everything you see.

[[PDM] Ammofodder]

pdm is my life.... also .... ammo you need to practice what you preach... note on how earlier u posted all that scientific stuff aboot MJ and yet now u tell us ur not a scientist..... dont belive everything you see.

???

*head explodes*

[R!v3tH34d]

yeah, ammo, i mean, i always thought u were a scientist!!!1111111 :rolleyes:

[[PDM] quick]

i fail to see how breathing smoke into your lungs (any type) can be construed as not having any harmful side effects.

[b 0 n g s]

quick']i fail to see how breathing smoke into your lungs (any type) can be construed as not having any harmful side effects.


it has side effecks... a high. :D ... im not sure if it can be considered bad.. im sure somewhere it can be.

[[PDM] quick]

yes it gets you high.. you are also breathing smoke into your lungs.. which no matter how you look at it is going to damage them.

[MasterofPuppets]

i never said its enuff to kill you. from one cigarette its not, but what do you think the ingredients that kill you over time are. all the aforementioned items. thats why it takes years upon years for just cigarettes to kill you, and you will live longer if you smoke weed then if you smoked cigarettes.

your right about the market thing. thats why we dont market it. we (we=gov't) make it legal to grow, sell, and use, but in bars or something like that. isnt that how it is in Amsterdam? i guess the only real problem with that is the driving factor, and americans in general lack the ability to stop doing something or not do something in their intoxicated state, ie drinking and driving. americans may not be able to handle the responsability to be able to smoke.

OMG! ITS A ****ING REVALATION! its funny what comes out of your ****ing head when your depressed. i think i may need to change my stance.
but weed still roxorz your soxorz

[MasterofPuppets]

sweet, i finally have the last word! 1 step farther from the clan noob.

[R!v3tH34d]

sweet, i finally have the last word! 1 step farther from the clan noob.
But, if you aren't the clan noob, then who will be?

... JK :D

[b 0 n g s]

lol thats a good question...i nominate.... mop for a 2nd termm ... i sat here thinking for 5mins and there is no other person... hey maybe blaze :P

[BlaZE]

ya well screw u hippy!!! GROW UP!! :D

[Kplu]

I recently took a trip to Ithica to drive a friend back to school (he went off the road and destroyed his vehicle on the way here) and while I was there some friends and I went to a halloween party. For those of you not familiar with NY Ithica is a peacful college town south of Syracuse. Home to Cornell and The Ithica School of Massage. anyway, the point I want to make is this: MIXING DRUGS WITH ALCOHOL = REALLY BAD IDEA. I spent the majority of the party holding a friend's head above the toilet and rubing his back. I HATE PUKE. HATE. HATE. HATE. I cannot stress that enough. Once we were ready to go, I had to spend 20 minutes cleaning the bathroom up, let me again mention one important factor: PUKE IS FULL OF HATE. This was because he decided after 5 beers that he wanted a hit or two. Mixing pot and alcohol is never a good idea, but I wouldn't stop him. I also believe that the pot was laced with something. Evidence points me twords LSD. He had mild musscle convulsions followed by musscle cramps, as well as lowered blood temprature and increased heart rate. This brings me to point #2: YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THE **** YOUR DRUGS CAME FROM. They could be laced, They could be a completely different drug than you expected, hell they could have been surgacally removed from a monky's ass and you would never ever know. Anyway, Had to shower my friend and give him some of my clothes. After a good nights rest he was much better. Hell, he felt better than I did that morning. If it werent for my Cup Ramen I don't think I would have made it. (Have you any idea how cheap Ramen is in Ithica? Ungodly cheap. I bought 9 boxes to bring home.) Anyway, the moral of this story is this: Don't mix drugs with alcohol. Oh yeah, and I HATE PUKE.

[b 0 n g s]

ya ramen is the best stuff ever created..i used to live in NY and my dad went to syercuse (SP)

ya most the time u can never know where u get ur weed from... unless u grow it urself and/or watch the person pick your weed 4 you.

[-=jhonnycockrin=-]

No marijuana is horrible. I consider it to be the worst of drugs mainly because it's the drug that does harm but everyone is CONVINCED it doesn't. Taking anything into your lungs involving burning causes damage. I've heard tons of excuses from my roomates about how their bongs filter it or all this crap. It doesn't, weed will give you lung cancer. Couple of points, tell me what you think about them
1. It's already illegal for a reason. The only reason people want the have it legalized is because "it makes them feel good". Doesn't that seem like a sort of selfish cause?
2. Anything you can get addicted to CAN'T be good....
3. I see all of these stupid websites that say OMG HOW MANY DEATHS FROM WEED=0, it's bull**** i have a published magazine article that states how many people die from different drugs and weed was up there at like 250 in 2002 i believe.
4. Everything people think about weed, people were thiking about tabacoo decades ago. If you had the chance to go back and stop tabacco from every exploding like it has, would you? I sure would. And we have a chance right now to stop weed from every becoming the same thing. Don't listen to me, and 50 years into the future Nicoderm CQ will be selling marijuana patches...
5. I believe medical studies show it kills brain cells in short term memory, but that memory returns after you stop smoking...

In conclusion, most marijuana users i know, use marijuana to escape from the realities of their life, like to be lazy, and are basically selfish creature. I want what i want that makes me feel good and i want it right now and nobody else can tell me what to do. Would your parents and grandparents be proud of you for smoking marijuana? Is that what they spent all their time and money in your education for? So that you get high all day? i dunno i just really hate MJ....
Bitter
-=jhonny=- lol well spoken, youve done your homework ?

[cricket19]

lol that is funny

[b 0 n g s]

smoking is baaaaddd mmmmmmk i dont do it n e more at all not sience i promised 2 ppl i wouldnt and bball started im a new man :D


i still think it should be perfectally legal though... its a persons choice to hurt themselves or not.. the govt should have no say in if u are hurting urself as long as u dont hurt others.

[MasterofPuppets]

sex is addictive. gaming is addictive. sleeping is addictive. what isnt addictive anymore? huh? ill tell you what. school. thats what. deoes that make school good? NO! SCHOOL SUCKS! and for the clan noob, i vote for george bush. if hes gonna spend a term doing something it might as well be kinda productive...

[b 0 n g s]

sex is addictive. gaming is addictive. sleeping is addictive. what isnt addictive anymore? huh? ill tell you what. school. thats what. deoes that make school good? NO! SCHOOL SUCKS! and for the clan noob, i vote for george bush. if hes gonna spend a term doing something it might as well be kinda productive...



i agree 100% school is not addicting and not good 4 u .... they make u get up early and that means lack of sleep.

[[PDM] stiltz]

uhm... so I stumbled upon this when searching pdmclan on Google...

http://www.pdmclan.com/photos/googleresults.JPG

[[PDM]PartyMarty]

rofl iraq

[DoC HoLiDaY]

No marijuana is horrible. I consider it to be the worst of drugs mainly because it's the drug that does harm but everyone is CONVINCED it doesn't

HaHa, out of all the drugs you say marijuana is one of the worst drugs? Your entitled to your own opinion, but do you see potheads coming home and wooping the hell out of their wives? I don't think so usually that is the drunkerds. Or maybe the heroin addicts who share their needles and have kids and pass there aids to there unborn children? Come on man you gotta do some research before u talk about things...

Even if pot doesn't get legalized for personal use :) , it certainly should be legalized for medical use. If you look it up, you will see that there are over 200 diseases, cancers, you name it weed cures it.

[[PDM] stiltz]

Ah... Doc I gotta disagree with you there... lol...


Most people don't just jump into doing herion or harder drugs... Most people will start out with Marijuana (or extacy these days) and move on to something else that promises an even greater high.

You should do your research...

and yes... drunkerds beat their wives on more occasion I would imagine than a pothead... but potheads on the otherhand don't really mean to cause harm... they just get behind the wheel of their car and freak out or don't concentrate because of the effects and cause accidents as severe as the drunkerd would have if he/she had driven home...

for more information about marijuana visit:
http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info

-=StIlTz=-

[cockroach]

I think ppl going from weed to hard drugs has not much to do with weed.
Its hard to get in the USA and if you are in the mood to party you get anything even couch medicine.
I feel its a little less now,but the person in the usa selling weed also sells other dope.
I try and find some research on the subject,I know that is saying there is hardly any connection at all.

[MasterofPuppets]

yes, i am crawling out of my dark hole to say a quick word.

its not the drug. its the person. if theres anything that ive learn'd over the last 6 months (they was bad, wont get into it) its that weed isnt addictive and it does not lead to harder drugs. its all about the human brain. speakin of which, i lost my train of thought. ill think about this over a quick smoke...

[[PDM] stiltz]

yes, i am crawling out of my dark hole to say a quick word.

its not the drug. its the person. if theres anything that ive learn'd over the last 6 months (they was bad, wont get into it) its that weed isnt addictive and it does not lead to harder drugs. its all about the human brain. speakin of which, i lost my train of thought. ill think about this over a quick smoke...

I'll agree with that... I won't say if its from personal experience or not... but I truly believe its the person... Some people think I've done weed and it wasn't all that bad... I liked it... I wonder what "X" drug is like... I'll try that and see if the high is better... I may or may not have thought that myself... lolllerz...

anyhoo... good conversation..

-=StIlTz=-

[DoC HoLiDaY]

See I donno man, been smoking for roughly 9-11 years, I've never done any other drugs, and i dont drink unless it is a special occasion. Nothing can lead u to other drugs other than yourself, saying marijuana caused u to try better drugs is a copout! I also smoke because it motivates me in school and my career as well, I like to show that potheads can be just as or more succesful than the average man...

[cockroach]

my first hash I smoked age 9,almost been smoking none stop from age 13.
I tried some other dope much later but it was not weed that made me do it,but very stupid other ppl.
stupid for using hard drugs and stupid to ask me.
anything I do I do a lot :D